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The Learning Future

Hosted by Louka Parry

Global conversations on the skills and models the future of learning needs. Excellent fit for the Lumiar story.

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future of learningagencyskills
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Auto-briefed from show notes · updated Oct 13, 2026

The Importance of Connection with Nicole Dyson S11E8 (147)

Oct 6, 2026

Educator and Future Anything founder Nicole Dyson challenges the false divide between knowledge and capabilities, arguing for 'capability rich learning': strong foundations of knowledge plus the ability to apply it in complex, unpredictable contexts, since capabilities like agility, collaboration, and agency cannot be developed through linear learning alone. The sharper point turns the lens on educators: if we want young people to be explorers and risk-takers, teachers and schools need the confidence to loosen control and experiment too. For consultants: the same logic applies to corporate L&D, you cannot train agency inside a controlled, linear program.

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Redefining Intelligence with Isabelle Hau S11E7 (146)

Sep 29, 2026

Isabelle Hau argues for a shift back to what makes us human: relational intelligence. In conversation with Louka Parry, she makes the case that the future of education and work hinges on our capacity to connect, collaborate and navigate complex social landscapes. For consultants: a concise framing of the relational-skills premium that AI-era workforce plans keep underpricing.

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Embodied Learning with Emily Poel and Guy Claxton S11E6 (145)

Sep 22, 2026

Louka Parry with Guy Claxton and Emily Poel, authors of Bodies of Learning, on embodiment science in education: intelligence as body-mind rather than intellect alone, movement, perception, emotion and intuition as part of learning, and practical ways to give learners space to notice what helps them learn. For consultants: expands the self-directed learning argument beyond cognition.

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The Spaces That Make Us with Danish Kurani S11E5 (144)

Apr 14, 2026

In this episode, Louka Parry and Danish Kurani discuss the significant impact of physical spaces on our thoughts, emotions, and learning experiences. They emphasize that design is inherently influential, affecting behavior and connections, and explore the essential elements of effective learning environments beyond just flexible furniture. For consultants: Understanding the relationship between space and human behavior can enhance their ability to advise organizations on creating environments that foster trust, collaboration, and self-management.

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What Schools Must Protect in an AI World with Andreas Schleicher S11E4 (143)

Apr 7, 2026

In this episode, Louka Parry and Andreas Schleicher discuss the evolving role of education in the context of AI and technological change, emphasizing the need to protect essential human capabilities while leveraging AI's potential to enhance personalized learning. They highlight the shift in teachers' roles from content providers to mentors and the importance of fostering collaborative cultures and social connections within schools. For consultants: Understanding these dynamics is crucial for guiding organizations in adapting their educational frameworks to maintain human-centered approaches in an increasingly automated world.

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Friction, Uncertainty and the Future of Learning with Justin Reich S11E3 (142)

Mar 31, 2026

This episode features a discussion between Louka Parry and Justin Reich about the impact of AI on education, emphasizing the importance of friction and productive struggle in learning. They advocate for a cautious approach to adopting new technologies in classrooms, urging educators to prioritize local experimentation and genuine improvement in learning outcomes over mere performance metrics. For consultants: Understanding these dynamics is crucial for guiding organizations through the complexities of educational transformation in an era of rapid technological change.

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MasterClass, AI & the New Age of Education with David Rogier S11E2 (141)

Mar 26, 2026

David Rogier argues that AI can accelerate learning, but only if schools stop transmitting knowledge and start teaching people how to learn, shifting systems from compliance to agency. As work becomes less predictable, generalists with adaptability matter more than specialists with fixed expertise, which means learning must cultivate identity and meaningful engagement alongside skill. The conversation maps a picture of education built on trust and self-direction, where people own their own development. For consultants: you recognize that self-management requires people to own their learning and development; this episode examines what systems enable that at scale.

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The Future of Learning at Human Scale with Pascale Quester S11E1 (140)

Mar 17, 2026

Pascale Quester, Vice-Chancellor at Swinburne University, argues that universities remain shackled by inherited models like lectures and exams that cannot survive AI and accelerating complexity. She proposes rethinking assessment, learning, and capability from scratch, distinguishing between productive struggle that builds resilience and friction that merely blocks access. Swinburne's answer: personalized learning, technological infusion, entrepreneurial thinking, and global relevance without replicating itself everywhere. For consultants: Quester's case against inherited educational structures mirrors what self-managed organizations learn: top-down instruction and standardized assessment don't just constrain learning; they prevent the continuous adaptation and distributed problem-solving that complexity demands.

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